Jeff Hitch e-mailed us from Mission Viejo in California with a question about silver stain:
Can you please give me some tips on how to paint with silver stains?
I have been using vinegar and brushes with no metal (since I understand there’s an active ingredient in the stain which corrodes the metal).
They paint OK but they just don’t flow as well as other types of paints.
Also, I can’t get them to gradate very well. Can you help?
Yes!
Stain is always problematic.
Slight differences in temperature can produce dramatically different results.
Differences in glass tend to produce different results.
And, when glass has previously been fired, this can also produce different results.
Therefore it’s always important to run tests.
This is especially so because one tends to paint stain last of all, when everything else has been done to perfection.
So, even with what we’ll tell you now, you always need to advance with caution.
The Majority View
Most people in this country mix stain with water.
I’ve asked around, and most people in the US seem to mix stain with either water or vinegar.
Here’s a run-down of the resultant problems:
Both media make it difficult to judge the density of the colour
Both media are difficult to apply to all and only the desired area
Neither media shades at all well
Both media, when dry, are messy and noxious to clean up
So a fine set of problems!
It’s daft to tolerate problems like this, so Jeff is absolutely right to ask questions.
A Different Approach
We use oil, either oil or tar, or lavender, or sandalwood.
Oil of tar is wonderful but carcinogenic, so we absolutely and unequivocally can’t recommend anyone gets into using it.
Lavender and/or sandalwood work fine.
As everyone knows, sandalwood is very thick, so we suggest starting with lavender.
Get a good essential oil.
Follow similar directions to how we mix oil-based paint as explained in part 6 of our e-book.
You just need a one or two palette knife’s worth of stain.
Add the oil a little at a time.
Keep adding oil until you have a really thick paste.
Decant this into a tiny sealable jam jar, and leave it to settle.
The next day, put some of this paste on your palette, add some neat oil and mix with a palette knife until you have a thickly floodable mixture.
Then flood this into the areas that you want to stain.
You obtain lighter colours by making a thinner dilution on your palette and by spreading it more thinly.
Being oil, this is far easier to achieve than with water or vinegar.
It’s also possible to blend the stain.
Problems solved – but you will always need to experiment!
No messy clean up – the only disadvantage is that it doesn’t dry as such, so you must handle the glass carefully until it’s fired.
We’ve found oil far more predictable and controllable than water.
It also keeps for ever in the jam jar, so it’s far more economical to use than with water. No waste.
Firing: we usually go to 220 Fahrenheit / 100 c. over 2 hours, rest there for 10 minutes, then go to 1040 F. / 560 c. over 2 hours, then let the kiln cool at its normal rate. But we aware that every case is different.
Note this:
There will be full details of this and other related stained glass painting techniques in our forthcoming hard-back book, The Glass Painter’s Method.
You’ll just need to wait until 2010 for the complete story.
In the meantime, please ask questions as you wish.
Enjoy the liberation from water and vinegar.
Silver Stain – How to Trace, Blend, Shade and Flood from a Reliable Batch that Works for Months
This is really important.
How much time and money are you wasting by not knowing the insider techniques which will take your staining to the professional level?
I mean, how comfortable are you with using stain to trace, blend, shade and flood?
And how would you like to go a long, long way to getting rid of that anxiety which most people feel when they come to check if their silver stain has actually worked?
Like, so it’s not all hit-and-miss?
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Hi guys!
I was Googling “Jeff Hitch” because I got a lead that he teaches beginning glass painting here in California.
It’s great to know (through Google) that he has also been in contact with Williams & Byrne.
If you have the means, can you do me a favor and forward a request that I am trying to make contact with him? – I am still looking for a person to get me going on the basics.
My best regards as always.
Hal Wilson
Santa Margarita, CA
Hi Hal,
Thanks for writing. I’ve just sent you Jeff’s e-mail address and also written to him.
All the best,
Stephen
I am a teacher of stained glass painting & reside in San Diego County, California. I teach at Ed Hoy’s in Illinois and hold individual classes in my studio which are usually 5 days in length. I am also thrilled with having found this English painting studio. I am recommending the site to all of my students.
Hello Sister Marie,
Thanks so much for your enthusiasm and support. For our part, David and I get so much from our encounters with people all over and in every walk of life. And now we meet you: wonderful!
All the best,
Stephen
I find that if you mix your silver stain with some dry gum arabic before adding water, then, once you’ve added water, you let it sit for a short time (thus allowing the water thoroughly to mix with the gum & stain) that you can then apply it fairly evenly on the back and fire stain to kiln shelf so that your other painting & matting on the front will not be disturbed. The gum takes away the stickiness. It dries rather quickly. It is easy to handle even if you still have work to do on the other side.
Good point, thank you! For our part, we have managed to get by without adding gum Arabic to silver stain – the kind we use possesses adhesive qualities of its own! So it’s useful to know that gum can indeed be added for added security e.g. when you want to fire the stain against the kiln shelf.
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