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		<title>By: Something We&#8217;ve Talked about Before &#8211; It&#8217;s SO Useful (but Others say it&#8217;s &#8220;Best Avoided&#8221;)!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Something We&#8217;ve Talked about Before &#8211; It&#8217;s SO Useful (but Others say it&#8217;s &#8220;Best Avoided&#8221;)!</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Stephen Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points, Jackie - thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points, Jackie &#8211; thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Carey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie Carey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use plating a lot, for all sorts of reasons, but I&#039;m always exceedingly careful to clean the glass as thoroughly as humanly possibly &lt;em&gt;before &lt;/em&gt;soldering. And also, when soldering, to look out for any tiny pinholes which could allow moisture, mildew, spores etc. to creep between the plates.

The pieces are small-scale, so copper-foiled and soldered (rather than leaded). 

If I were leading a large plated window, I think I&#039;d be quite nervous about the potential for &#039;seep and creep&#039; between the plates. 

I&#039;d definitely want to foil them first, or use some other sealing method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use plating a lot, for all sorts of reasons, but I&#8217;m always exceedingly careful to clean the glass as thoroughly as humanly possibly <em>before </em>soldering. And also, when soldering, to look out for any tiny pinholes which could allow moisture, mildew, spores etc. to creep between the plates.</p>
<p>The pieces are small-scale, so copper-foiled and soldered (rather than leaded). </p>
<p>If I were leading a large plated window, I think I&#8217;d be quite nervous about the potential for &#8216;seep and creep&#8217; between the plates. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d definitely want to foil them first, or use some other sealing method.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mike,

Your point is perfectly made about colour-matching; if the single sheet of colour is no longer available, then plating is certainly a responsible response.

And, in new work, yes, the one-of-a-kind colour - a colour that fits the design and the architectural setting - is just what&#039;s required.

Here&#039;s to plating, and we don&#039;t mean that boastfully!

All the best,
Stephen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mike,</p>
<p>Your point is perfectly made about colour-matching; if the single sheet of colour is no longer available, then plating is certainly a responsible response.</p>
<p>And, in new work, yes, the one-of-a-kind colour &#8211; a colour that fits the design and the architectural setting &#8211; is just what&#8217;s required.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to plating, and we don&#8217;t mean that boastfully!</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Stephen</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McElhattan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike McElhattan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Stephen,

Thumbs up to plating!

I have to admit, I was terrified to read the article after scoping the &lt;em&gt;title&lt;/em&gt;. 

Plating, whether disregarded or incapable in the past plays a huge part in glass life today. Glass matching alone, as you stated, is the only way  to make a suitable replacement to the more extinct variety. 

Above all it is just fun to make that one-of-a-kind color, texture or effect that single glazing won&#039;t do. 

Thank you from your plating community!

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Stephen,</p>
<p>Thumbs up to plating!</p>
<p>I have to admit, I was terrified to read the article after scoping the <em>title</em>. </p>
<p>Plating, whether disregarded or incapable in the past plays a huge part in glass life today. Glass matching alone, as you stated, is the only way  to make a suitable replacement to the more extinct variety. </p>
<p>Above all it is just fun to make that one-of-a-kind color, texture or effect that single glazing won&#8217;t do. </p>
<p>Thank you from your plating community!</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Goff Parham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Goff Parham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome!  Do you need any other photos?  lol  I am sure you have plenty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome!  Do you need any other photos?  lol  I am sure you have plenty!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laura,

Thanks for your contribution. 

Plating and possible pitfalls - certainly.

Plating and craftsmanship - well, I think your example proves the point. When a technique is properly used in the service of a design, then the technique is in its proper place. Techniques go wrong mainly when they pretend that they are masters and forget they should be &lt;em&gt;servants&lt;/em&gt;.

All the best,
Stephen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laura,</p>
<p>Thanks for your contribution. </p>
<p>Plating and possible pitfalls &#8211; certainly.</p>
<p>Plating and craftsmanship &#8211; well, I think your example proves the point. When a technique is properly used in the service of a design, then the technique is in its proper place. Techniques go wrong mainly when they pretend that they are masters and forget they should be <em>servants</em>.</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Stephen</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Goff Parham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Goff Parham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Friends!

Yes, plating &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; beautiful - but full of pitfalls.  

I have had to restore several stained glass windows that were plated. In those windows the church had been &lt;em&gt;coal-heated&lt;/em&gt;. Coal soot had built up between the plates.  

The church also had condensation problems. (On some of the photos you will see where the condensation has dribbled down the coal soot.)

These windows are mainly opalescent glass. The artist had painted some black lines on the front of the &lt;em&gt;first &lt;/em&gt;layer. And then painted shading on the front side of the &lt;em&gt;second&lt;/em&gt; layer of opalescent glass. 

On the faces, the artist had used clear window pane for the first layer; painted window pane on the second layer, and the &lt;em&gt;third&lt;/em&gt; layer had &#039;ghost image&#039; painted on the front side. Amazing work! 

I have written about that restoration on my blog - &lt;a href=&quot;http://sotaglasscom.blogspot.com/2010/01/st-john-lutheran-crucifixion-stained.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://sotaglasscom.blogspot.com/2010/01/st-john-lutheran-church-ascension.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and also &lt;a href=&quot;http://sotaglasscom.blogspot.com/2010/01/st-john-lutheran-church-knoxville-tn.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.   

I have also posted other restoration photos on Flickr.com &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/sotaglass-com/sets/72157622718048425/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;right here&lt;/a&gt;.

All the best,
Laura Goff Parham</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Friends!</p>
<p>Yes, plating <em>is</em> beautiful &#8211; but full of pitfalls.  </p>
<p>I have had to restore several stained glass windows that were plated. In those windows the church had been <em>coal-heated</em>. Coal soot had built up between the plates.  </p>
<p>The church also had condensation problems. (On some of the photos you will see where the condensation has dribbled down the coal soot.)</p>
<p>These windows are mainly opalescent glass. The artist had painted some black lines on the front of the <em>first </em>layer. And then painted shading on the front side of the <em>second</em> layer of opalescent glass. </p>
<p>On the faces, the artist had used clear window pane for the first layer; painted window pane on the second layer, and the <em>third</em> layer had &#8216;ghost image&#8217; painted on the front side. Amazing work! </p>
<p>I have written about that restoration on my blog &#8211; <a href="http://sotaglasscom.blogspot.com/2010/01/st-john-lutheran-crucifixion-stained.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and <a href="http://sotaglasscom.blogspot.com/2010/01/st-john-lutheran-church-ascension.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and also <a href="http://sotaglasscom.blogspot.com/2010/01/st-john-lutheran-church-knoxville-tn.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.   </p>
<p>I have also posted other restoration photos on Flickr.com <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sotaglass-com/sets/72157622718048425/" rel="nofollow">right here</a>.</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Laura Goff Parham</p>
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